Is Linux EVER going to make it to the desktop?
Using Linux is like being a third-class citizen in a troubled autocracy. Windows and Mac users can click on things and expect them to work, Linux users have to tread lightly and do their best not to upset the OSS or alsa daemons, or go too far in hoping a Flash plug in might actually WORK!!
I’ve been using Linux since 1992 or ‘93. I’ve always had a Linux box around. It’s been an experiment that’s kind of lasted 15 years. Given my predilection for technology experiments, I suppose I’ll always maintain a Linux box on the side. But every now and then, I succumb to The Urge. I take one of my main computers, this time my home office PC, and install a Linux distro as the primary OS. Only when you do this do you really start to understand where Linux stands and what holes need to be filled. And when I say holes, I really mean gaping cavities that would put geological marvels like the mighty river Indus to shame. But let’s not get caught up in the semantics.
I’ve used tons of distros; Slackware, debian, Puppy, Mandrake, Damn Small Linux (DSL), Suse and Ubuntu. My latest adventure involves Ubuntu Hardy Heron (8.04) with a 2.6.24-19 Kernel. I’m running this on a 3 Ghz Pentium 4 rig with 2 GB of RAM and a couple of 80 GB disks. Not by any means, a slow machine.
So, what are my findings? I’ve been running this thing for 3 months now and have been using it daily. The good news is that the install was relatively painless, my NIC was recognized and so was my display. I have a widescreen LCD and the resolutions were picked up just fine – all goodness, and a far cry from the xf86config days when you had to manually select GPU clocks and the like.
Now, the bad news. In the course of usual business, you keep running into irritating limitations mainly around Linux being unsupported by so much of the new stuff out there (hardware, applications, websites.. you name it). Also, I keep running into system oddities that take a LONG time to debug and figure out. Combine this with the fact that Linux has been robbed of its stability and performance, and you’re in for an unpleasant ride. I’ll give you some examples:
1) The sound config on my machine is really wierd. At times it works ok, and then sound just stops. I think it’s the alsa daemon that keeps core dumping. When I manually restart it, things return to normal, and then it’ll go away again. Bloody irritating.
2) I had to go to lengths unrequired by Windows in order to configure Sun’s VirtualBox to run audio, but once I did, it worked. Indeed, when you run a Windows VM it outputs audio just fine. The problem, of course, is that the host Linux OS no longer does! I can go in and try to debug this and figure out if it’s a permissions issue or if VirtualBox is trying to talk to hardware directly, bypassing alsa or whatever other evil dynamics exist. But I will gain very little at the end of all this and I really can’t afford to waste so much time debugging everything manually in order to get little things to work that have been working on Windows since the good old days of 3.1. This is no longer fun. It’s miserable.
It’s not just hardware interaction stuff that causes you to tear your hair out. Commonly used apps like Flash are casualties too. If I want to upload an image to this wordpress blog when I’m using my Ubuntu box, and I naively attempt to use the default Flash uploader, it never works. The content area in the browser window is grayed out indefinitely. You have to use the HTTP upload functionality and God forbid you forget! Using Linux is like being a third-class citizen in a troubled autocracy. Windows and Mac users can click on things and expect them to work, Linux users have to tread lightly and do their best not to upset the OSS or alsa daemons, or go too far in hoping a Flash plug in might actually WORK!!
3) New apps, even when they’re released by the Champions of Free, Google, are unsupported on Linux. So what that tells you is that Linux is and probably will forever remain second or third class. Anytime a new app comes out, you’ve either got to wait for a low-quality, feature-poor knock off in the OSS domain, or wait on the developer to finally come out with the Linux version, if ever. In the case of Google Chrome, here is what I see when I try to download the new Chrome browser for Linux:
And oh by the way, yes, I do know some guy on the web got Chrome to work with WINE. Whatever. WINE is about as stable as a drunk trying to walk a straight line. I’ve unfortunately been using that for years also. I currently have the latest released rev which continually bombs and pegs the CPU to boot. I am not going to run Chrome under WINE (sort of sounds like Chrome running ‘under the influence’) and I doubt very many others will either.
Eventually Google will come out with Chrome on Linux, which won’t be as stable as Chrome on Windows. Just like Firefox on Linux is not as stable as Firefox on Windows. And there’ll be sound integration problems, and plugin problems and all sorts of other misery… The upshot is that I waited several extra months to get my hands on what Windows users had for a long time ago. And when I got it, it was uglier, slower, fatter and generally the sort of thing that ruins your weekend.
4) Video playback on Linux is, let’s face it, still a nightmare. Having tried three different video players (VLC included), I’ve found that the behaviour of codecs on Linux is much less stable than on any other platform I’ve used. This is still the case, as of September 2008. I’ve tried a dozen codecs. I truly, really wanted this darn thing to work. I get playback but with an FPS rate Windows 98 readily produces on a Pentium Pro!
5) The mythological stability of the Linux OS is officially GONE now. Argue with me all you want, but Elvis, my friends, has left the building. I’ve used both platforms sufficiently to know the difference. Linux today, out of the box at least, with a mainstream distro like Ubuntu is both SLOWER and LESS STABLE than Windows. Flame away. It won’t change the truth. I have more inexplicable Firefox crashes on Linux, I have more instances when my screen grays out (GNOME does this when an app isn’t responding) leading to either the app disappearing and the screen ‘ungraying’ or me having to kill the process the old fashioned way. Good old ps -x, hunt for the PID, kill -9 it.
6) Process bloat. Those who complain about Windows running a lot of processes, blah blah, should do a ps -x | nl on the command line as root. I’m counting over 70 processes right now when I have TWO applications running… Firefox and Open Office’s Calc spreadsheet.
7) Bad resource management. I don’t mean this to be a lecture delivered in an Operating Systems class, but just take a look at the following image. I don’t have any Flash playing under Firefox, I don’t have any active apps or heavy Web 2.0 Javascript type apps running at the moment. And yet, Firefox usage is 56% of a modern, 3Ghz CPU. What the HELL!!??
What is Linux good for? Maybe a minimal kernel that’s been thoroughly tested to run a single app in kiosk mode? Maybe as a way for embedded device makers to save some RTOS royalties by massaging a Linux kernel to run a couple of their point-applications? It certainly continues to have utility as a server platform that doesn’t need to worry about the peripherals an end user needs, or compatibility with the latest graphics stuff you would expect to pick up from a typical computer store, or any semblance of UI uniformity and ease-of-use etc. Also, netbooks and UMPCs like the MSI Wind, eeePC etc. are using Linux primarily to keep their costs low, but also, the limited apps you’re going to run on a platform like that can probably be caressed and cajoled into working when the hardware manufacturer is involved in building the specific Linux kernel, and hand picking the apps that go on to the device.
When it comes to the desktop, I think Linux is not ready and the question is, will it ever be? I don’t think so. I think we’ll sooner migrate to apps in the cloud where Chrome, IE and Firefox running fast JavaScript engines will allow us to do most of our stuff online. Ironically, that might be a simpler target for the Linux community to aim for. Let the browser be the “Window Manager”, cut the kernel down to the basics, remove some of the bloat – which should hopefully restore a bit of the speed and stability we used to have 10 years ago with Linux – and just try to make it a great platform to run Cloud apps.
Meanwhile, here in TechLahore Land, I’ll be scrubbing Ubuntu off my drives and moving to Vista-SP1 (been running fine for me post SP1, thank you). Maybe next winter I’ll come around, like I always do, and give the latest distro fare another try. Until then, adios penguin!





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September 8th, 2008 at 5:49 am
This post is clearly a flame…If you hate Linux, be straight about it!
I did not such problems since last year and Linux GUI kicks ass compared to Vista and MacOS. See this video for proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w
September 8th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Thank you for higlighting another issue with Linux. Which is the very high percentage of community members who will automatically assume that anytime someone highlights problems with Linux, they are “flaming”. If I “hated” Linux, I wouldn’t have been using it for the last 15 years. I think it is not suitable as a primary desktop OS, however, and that is the point being made in the article.
September 8th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Obviously not a flame, but a rather poorly constructed troll. Congratulations, I bit!
In reading your “article” it becomes rather obvious that you have not “used” Linux for 15 years — you’ve occasionally dabbled in it and run away when it got “hard”. In my own 14 years of daily use, I can’t say that I’ve ever run into problems that were insurmountable, or indeed, anything other than occasionally irritating, and even those have been fixed, generally easily; although there have been a few that were rather trying. The same can be said of any Windows or Mac OS installaion, too — none of them are really great at everything. My own opinion of Windows is that it’s not really great at anything, it’s just familiar to most people, who, like you, don’t want to be bothered by a different way of doing things.
Don’t try driving in a country where they drive on the other side of the road than in your country… You’ll have to write an article about what’s wrong with their cars…
September 8th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
trollbiter, what pathetic illogical banter! windows hasn’t been around since the big bang. it was new once, and people got used to it within a few years. it didn’t start life as the ‘monopoly’ that linux fanboys like to crib about. it was easy enough for people to use, that’s why they did.
mac os x is an even better example. it’s younger than linux and more people use it than linux on the desktop. why? not because we love steve jobs, but because mac os x is well thought out, and is generally an easy to use system. lets just face the facts. what bothers guys like you in the linux community is that a small group of developers at apple or msft, were able to come up with a more popular, more acclaimed, easier to use desktop OS than thousands upon thousands of linux gurus have been able to produce in 15 or 16 years.
as for your “opinion of windows”. it’s something 95% of the PC users of the world don’t give two hoots for. that’s why they aren’t using linux and spending every waking moment debugging drivers. but thanks for sharing anyway.
you talk about how people “run away” when linux gets “hard”. well, newsflash! if it’s going to succeed on the desktop it better darn well not be hard. it needs to be at least as easy, if not easier than mac os x and windows. if it remains harder than these other mainstream operating systems it will always be relegated to the niche that is occupied, seemingly, by people such as yourself who have many extra hours to burn on debugging basic functionality issues that should have worked out of the box. if you’re going to waste that much time, at least waste it on something that contributes positively. getting your scanner or printer or sound card to work with linux after hours of effort is just a goshdarned waste. there’s no value in it.
September 9th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Article is full of inaccuracies, misunderstandings and falsehoods. Has this guy used Linux since 1993? I cant believe it. He has learned very little about the OS. I’ve been using Linux since about the same time on three or four machines both at home and at work. Many of the problems he has sound just weird.
I don’t have any problems with the sound card, stability etc.. Maybe his problem is with Firefox. It messed up things internally to itself. Regardless of OS. Firefox 3.0 has solved a lot of things for me.
Video playback works fine but due to copyright codecs are legal in Europe but not in US. They are not included in the standard distribution. You must use an extension like ‘Livna’ (if your base installation is Fedora)
Gnome makes the screen gray? This is when I realised that this guy is trying to sound like he knows computers, but he doesn’t. It’s not the screen going gray, it’s a single window. Its the window manager that does that when an application doesn’t respond. It’s not a bug, its a feature you can turn off or on as you like. Again this guy probably only uses Firefox that used to be so slow when it runs scripts that the window manager notices it doesn’t respond, but Firefox comes back when it is finished.
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Which lead us to the process management. Sure Firefox can use 50% of the processor. It’s a bab application, on every OS. Some websites inject java script that just runs and runs. (try to install the ‘noscript’ plugin by the way to solve the problem – it’s a firexox plugin, not OS specific)
Process bloat? no I don’t think so its sound programming to have lots of processes in sleep mode. Makes the OS more responsive. Who everr complained on that? (maybe the complaint was over all memory usage in Windows?)
Finally he goes on to market Chrome as an all out platform for everything. Now I really see what this guy is doing. I think he has an agenda
This is the new service oriented business model for the future computer. Linux is a threat to that model, where the user has all his applications as well as most of his data on web servers. The user will pay a small fee for almost everything he wants to do. This business model would however not be threatened by small lean web portals capable of only running a web browser. It would be easy to do such a Linux installation. Boot the machine and all you get is Firefox or Chrome. No other OS features. Easy, available yesterday!
September 11th, 2008 at 5:46 am
Observer: very well explained. I have been using Linux for almost 2 years now and after reading the article, my first guess was also that its the firefox that is causing problem not the OS. So, all the problems mentioned by the author seems to be fixable without much hassle. He must be told that Google is error free and can help him in this regard
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Anyway, my 2 cents about Linux is that neither mac nor windows provide the power to the user that Linux provides. It is fast becoming a threat to other main Operating Systems.
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September 14th, 2008 at 1:43 am
I have been using Mandriva since it was Mandrake on many different motherboards and hasn’t had problems like this guy is describing…VLC plays DVDs with no problems…VirtualBox works with audio and network after repo install with no configure…fire fox runs well with many tabs open……this guy sound like a guy who buys a lemon of a car and then complains that ALL the cars are no good……..
September 14th, 2008 at 2:07 am
JAFO: are you saying Ubuntu is a lemon? Let’s see how the Ubuntu fans respond. Interesting to see that the Linux community is getting so fractured around distros.
September 14th, 2008 at 6:32 am
I love how the Linux users’ responses are “works for me” and “good response there”. Nobody imagines that maybe they got lucky with their hardware and other people have problems! Nobody tries to objectively investigate the points about stability and performance. Nah, if someone says they’re having trouble with Linux, the only logical conclusion must be that they’re lying and trolling.
I’ve tried Ubuntu myself many times over the years, and worked on Linux extensively in my day job. Many of the author’s problems are *exactly* what I’ve seen. Sound working poorly, and almost never for 2 apps at once. Flash being a pain. Firefox freezing. Worse than this, there are some things I need my computer to do every day that Linux simply couldn’t do for me, like hibernate reliably, or plug-and-play an external display. If it can’t do these things, I don’t even care about which codecs are available and how it performs, it’s just not functional
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September 14th, 2008 at 6:47 am
Yeah Techlahore.. isn’t it funny how, with a global market share of less than 1%, Linux tries hard and hard to fragment it self into even MORE distros, giving a user even MORE choice to choose from that he originally doesn’t want? Hey Linux Die Hards, here’s a lesson for you: Sometimes, less is more!
September 14th, 2008 at 11:06 am
You raised two valid points with Google Chrome and Firefox eating a lot of resources (both memory and CPU), but that’s an issue which usually gets solved on stable and thoroughly tested distributions, like Debian for example.
Also, regarding Chrome: how many other open-source applications are only available for Linux and not for Windows? Take the entire GNOME with its suite of applications, take KDE which still isn’t ported completely (as far as I know) to Windows. Only several big applications like OpenOffice, Firefox or GIMP are available on both Linux and Windows. But applications like Amarok, Banshee and you name it don’t have a Windows port. And not once I read comments from Windows users asking for an Amarok port after seeing only a screenshot, not the entire application. Or Beryl, or Compiz or…
Regarding ALSA drivers, you are right but not entirely. This depends on how well the hardware is supported, and since the manufacturer doesn’t provide an official driver for Linux, you are stuck with a community-made driver. Instead, for me ALSA was very stable on Debian Lenny. And that’s still ‘testing’, it’s not even stable yet. Bugs actually *get* fixed on respectable distributions.
About codecs: it happens only with closed-source, proprietary codecs. My entire collection of Ogg Vorbis audio files works extremely well with any player, especially Amarok.
September 14th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I’ve completely switched to ubuntu 4 months ago,and i must add,i never looked back
I’m a network student,and i must say that the experience wasn’t painful !
i tried couple distros before but i had my driver problems and such,but with Hardy 8.04 all was like a summer breeze,on my first install,the laptop stayed on for 9 days,for some reason i needed to do something on windows,when i switched it on,honestly i was disgusted !!
i couldn’t wait to go back on my sweet ubuntu,i managed to hack into a windows Sp3 and a vista machine in NO TIME !
its true that i learned most of my networking skill on windows,but it wasn’t that hard to switch to linux,it was hard in the first couple days and when i was setting it up,to keep it short,adapting wasn’t that hard as i imagined,even though ive been a windows user since windows 95
I think linux is for those who really know what they’re doing,every one can double click,i bet my grandma can use xp in 15 minutes of clicking and asking
I’ve been learning new things everyday on my linux machine,and i LOVE IT
September 14th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
I am “VS Dude” because I compare apples to oranges objectively as a hobby. I’ve been on the fence and I’ve been a fanboy – for all 3 major OS players (including “Linux” as number 3). Here’s how they measure up:
Windows – Yeah, Vista’s the relative new guy in town and everyone loves the previous prom queen but hey, you can’t live in the past forever. Windows is the juggernaut, the ever-rolling tank, the OS on a rail with a mission… and it’s prone to the failures you’d expect to find in anything as complex as it is. Still, Windows is number one in use – it’s everywhere and everything is built to run on it. The interface isn’t perfect and MS is experimenting with layout and navigation changes – but it’s usable.
Apple – OS X is a thing of utter beauty. Nothing else comes close to perfection… and yet, it’s not perfect. There are configurations where you’re required to click “OK” to confirm and areas where no “OK” exists at all (changes are accepted as entered). It’s fast, it’s pretty, it’s full-featured and it runs most of what you’ll find or ever need. There’s still some waking up to do in the web though – you’ll find some sites (like those cereal commercials that put a free game on the web or put one in the box for your kids to play with) simply won’t work on anything but Windows. Apple hardware is also beautiful – but EXPENSIVE! A Mac will typically cost more than a similarly-equipped PC or laptop. Apple even charges 3 times more for adding RAM than any reasonable person would consider spending.
Linux – All varieties (or distros) fall into the same category for me – and all suffer from the same issues (outlined perfectly in our blogger’s article above). I’ve championed the Linux effort myself – having installed it on 4 people’s computers throughout the last couple of years. All but one has found it necessary to go back to Windows. Linux isn’t Windows and unless you’re willing to run Wine (which will only work on specific applications and requires that you have the right collection of hardware and horsepower to handle it), you’re going to feel like the ugly, red-headed step-child in the OS family. Flash enabled sites will work – mostly – but you’ll find ones that get so far in and then “That’s odd, the menus don’t do anything when I click on them.” Then, “Hey, iTunes won’t run in Wine…” or “I can’t open the latest MS Office files with OpenOffice.” These are the “gotchyas” that have chased my friends back to Windows.
The author speaks the truth. Flaming him on his personal experiences doesn’t reveal anything about him but tells us about you. If you don’t like his experiences, you can’t change that – and maybe that’s what’s upsetting you so much. The fact is this: Linux is NOT where it needs to be TODAY to be a serious desktop contender for MOST people. Until that fact changes, it will remain a niche OS which appeals to the computing underground or those that rely on it for what benefits it does offer them in the way they use it.
September 15th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
To me, using a distro is sort of like the good-ol-days of expanded memory managers, norton commander, 3270 emulation cards, 640×480 resolution…a lot of reading and experimenting…and a victory dance when you tripped over the solution.
But, when a sound app running on a dual-boot machine cannot correctly use the sound card/driver in multiple distros but works perfectly in Vista (same application, same sound card), then that’s a little harsh, don’t you think?
Distros satisfy my need to constantly install something. Livecds are just plain fun. Installers still need a little work in the grub area…
All in all, great fun when I got some free time.
September 15th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Shame on the Linux fanboys who try to diminish the very real problems I’m sure you’re experiencing. Like you, I’m one of those guys who keeps hoping Linux will succeed for desktop use.
Don’t lose hope. Maybe next year’s linux will work for you, but consider: most of the time linux is what it is because people contribute to it (or don’t). Consider helping out by filing bug reports, working as much as possible with developers to bring your issues to the forefront. If you’ve done this, great. I just hope to discourage a sense of “consumerism” about the whole thing that says “If you don’t fix it for me, I’ll just take my business elsewhere!”
In response to those who think you somehow “get lucky” with the hardware, that’s not true at all. The hardware support is actually very good, usually, but you do get stinkers sometimes. I’ve installed Ubuntu on probably 5 very different computers, and so far, I’ve had a lot of success. One of my video cards caused problems with desktop effects once. That’s about it.
September 15th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
@trollbiter…
you say people dont like to be bothered to do things differently… has it ever crossed your mind that people maybe dont want to have to load a windows virtual machine inside of this great linux os that can do everything, just to browse the net without flash crashing??
October 12th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Having been using Ubuntu since just the late 7.04 days, I’ve been rather actively watching it and seeing what situations people are running into with it. Admittedly, I haven’t had nearly the same trouble that our friend has, but I have had my own share of glitches. In the order that he went through his points, I’ll go through what I see to be the likely sources for the problems.
1) Hardy Heron uses PulseAudio as the sound manager, but it has been listed on several websites that the way it is configured in Hardy is not the way that it should be. Even with 8.04.1 having been released, this does not seem to have been truly “fixed”. 8.10 should provide a better setup for PA
2) Again, we’re seeing some of the issues of the way that PulseAudio is set up in Hardy Heron. There are ways to get this fixed, and a simple Google search would pull up several useful pieces of advice.
As for the “common apps” that he’s talking about online, the package “flashplugin-nonfree” would probably help immensely. Better yet, just install the entire “ubuntu-restricted-extras” package. Support for almost every single codec and format that you need.
3) Until the userbase for Linux grows, this trend will remain. Once more companies start taking Linux seriously (ex: Dell), this problem will start to fade into history.
As for WINE, when you consider the massive project they’re undertaking (providing a fully-functional Windows Compatibility Layer), we should be impressed that they even have made as much progress as they have and support as many apps as they do. Is it going to have bugs? Probably. Is it going to have ‘growing pains’? You bet. I’ve even installed Windows on my main machine for Visio because Microsoft has blocked WINE users from Windows Update (including Office Update).
4) It sounds not so much like this is a problem with the codecs, but a problem with your video card driver. Without knowing more about the hardware that your setup had, this is only speculation. VLC should provide playback for most of the file formats you’ll ever run across, and the “ubuntu-restricted-extras” should provide for whatever gaps you come across. Admittedly, there are a few really odd formats out there (.amv for example) that neither Windows nor Linux has a codec for, though there is one in development for Linux.
5) As mentioned before, the official release of Firefox 3 has remedied much of the trouble that the beta that was shipped with Hardy was having. As for Ubuntu running as slow as it does on your system, I can only speculate. Regarding having to find and kill non-responsive apps, I would recommend the following:
# ps -u | grep
# kill -9
- or -
# killall -9
With you having used Linux for as long as you say you have, I’m surprised you didn’t know about those options.
6) The majority of the processes you’re seeing running are probably ones that Ubuntu uses to actually get itself up and running. After all, you’ve got the Gnome suite, you’ve got the log-in manager… there’s just a bunch of stuff “sleeping” in the background, and only a small handful actually active. Your picture of your “top” readout shows that quite well, actually. Notice how many of those applications are showing 0% CPU usage?
7) On the topic of your “top” image, I can only wonder at what Firefox was doing at the time that that screenshot was taken.
You are correct, though, in that saying that that is where Linux would shine. The lack of viruses for Linux-based OSes make them perfect for a low-maintenance/high-usage area, like stand-alone kiosks. With how minimal the Linux kernel can be made as well, it also would be a fantastic solution for portable devices – the Linux on a chip solution is one wonderful example of this.
At least Linux, though, doesn’t have a history of BSOD’ing when something is plugged into the USB port on the computer.
October 12th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Command in my post should have read as follows:
#ps -u (username) | grep (program name)
#kill -9 (PID)
- or -
#killall -9 (program name)
October 13th, 2008 at 4:44 am
Thomas, thank you for your very helpful post. Maybe it is video-card driver related… Next time I do an install, I’ll try to pay special attention to the card I use and investigate how well Linux supports it.
November 1st, 2008 at 9:25 pm
http://www.google.com/intl/en/corporate/culture.html
Look under Equipment. Nearly all Google workstation/office PC’s run Linux.
I should tell you, I had all the problems you had with Linux on my Gateway MX6453.
It was just hardware. Did you have a Radeon ATI card by any chance?
I would agree that Mac/Windows users do have the advantage of the ‘it will pr0bably work’ thing,
but many software titles are slowly being ported, _not_ with WINE.
November 3rd, 2008 at 8:29 pm
I see your complaint about Firefox taking up 56% of your CPU but that’s an application issue, not an OS level problem. I understand that application make up a large part of the user experience but your experience must be pretty good since you’re system’s been up and running for over 31 days. Tell me how would your other PCs look after a month of of uptime.
February 19th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
i’m just wondering how the writer has used linux for so long and still disliking it. either he is a idiot or a jackass …;)
February 19th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
I was not aware that only idiots and jackasses used Linux. Thanks for the clarification.
March 6th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
I have been using linux for about 15 years now and I have never had an issue with sound, video, or other apps that run in linux. I have had a number of pc’s in my house all but three of them where self built pc’s. The only ones I have ever found an issue with are the one’s that you buy in a store all pc’s that are self built run linux like a dream. as for sound cards creative cards work the best, for video ati or nvidia work very well, heck i still have my voodoo 5 5500 running on one of my linux boxes now and it runs like it always has stable. I have used it for playing music, video’s, games, i have plugged in camera’s external drives flash drives you name it i’ve done it. The way i see it is like this, if your a ture computer geek it does not matter what OS is in front of you or what it has in apps, its how you get it to do what you want when you want no matter what it has always been that way and always will.
Later March 06, 2k9
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
I knew after reading this article that we would see a LOT of feedback. The articles that put Linux in a bad light seem to generate a LOT of comments from the Linux community. I have to chime in as well. I’ve used Linux for over 12 years and had mixed luck on a couple of occasions with sound, and with X11. But in all honesty, the problem was easily found on Google and resolved within minutes, and was due to an el cheapo sound card. If you are using common built systems from HP, Dell, Gateway, etc, your luck will be greater since more of the Linux community is probably using the same hardware, and fixes will be released quickly. I’ve had countless installs work without a hitch. I know that mileage will vary, but once a Linux machine is up and running it will continue to do so. It’s a “set and forget” type of OS. Where Windows is completely the opposite and requires much attention and maintenance. So which do I choose? Linux, without a doubt. I use it for my personal business and at home, and I couldn’t be happier. I can focus on using my computers for what they were meant for, rather than wasting time by troubleshooting them all of the time. Plus, I get great performance compared to bloated Microsoft products like Vista and Office 2007. And, I use Fedora 10 Linux, which has all of the software I could ever want which made replacing Windows even easier. So I suggest for those that have not given Linux a try to do so. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Thank you for reading and commenting, SA. This article was written about 9 months ago. I will probably give an everyday Linux system another shot before the 1-year anniversary of this piece and chime in with my latest views.
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